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Drawn nonferrous tube RFQ: specify more than outside diameter and wall thickness
State the alloy, temper, delivered length and end condition, then show the fit, straightness and later processing that matter. Ask the supplier to identify the state in which the tube will be inspected and delivered.
Describe the tube you need to receive
Imagine buying aluminium tube that your workshop will cut, bend and join into an equipment assembly. An offer lists the required outside diameter and wall thickness, but omits temper, end preparation and delivered length. The price cannot yet be compared with a quote for ready-cut pieces.
Give the alloy and governing specification, temper, supplied form and intended use. Say whether you need straight lengths, coils or finished cut pieces, and which operations will happen after receipt. Yamato describes both extruded starting tubes and welded starting-tube routes in its manufacturing information.[2] If a seamless construction is required, state it explicitly and ask for evidence; “drawn” alone does not establish it.
Mark fit areas, ends and the length you can use
Identify the outside or inside surface that mates with another part. Put dimensions and tolerances on those functional areas and explain any gauge requirement. Outside diameter, inside diameter and wall thickness describe related geometry; ask the supplier to review the drawing if independent limits on all three would conflict. Keep ovality, wall variation and surface requirements separate when they affect the use.
Give cut length and tolerance, the end geometry and any burr-removal or edge requirement. If the buyer will cut away the ends, agree the usable length and any excluded end regions. Show the insert depth or joining region where it matters, and say whether a coating or later operation changes the final fit. The supplier should flag assumptions rather than silently quoting a different inspection state.
- 1Section: identify the mating diameter and wall requirements
- 2Length: mark usable length, end preparation and the joining region
- 3Straightness: agree the assessed length, support and measurement state
Schematic features only. This is not a dimensioned drawing, tolerance zone or bending/pressure design. Numbers identify enquiry topics, not measurement points or a prescribed test fixture.
Keep temper and measurement state with the dimensions
Nihon Shinkan describes straightening, cutting, cleaning and heat treatment as parts of its drawn-tube production example.[1] A drawing that only says “after drawing” can therefore leave important delivery work unresolved. Specify the required temper and ask which operations are included before inspection and packing.
For straightness, agree the length being assessed and how the tube is supported or restrained during the check. Do not treat a local check on a short piece as evidence for the full delivered length. If your workshop bends or heat-treats the tube later, distinguish requirements on the delivered stock from the final assembly requirements. Review the material condition for that later process rather than assuming the strongest temper will be the easiest to form.
| Requirement | Show in the RFQ | Ask the supplier to confirm |
|---|---|---|
| Material and construction | Show in the RFQAlloy, specification, temper and any seamless requirement | Ask the supplier to confirmExact supplied designation, route and evidence |
| Functional dimensions | Show in the RFQMating areas, critical diameter and wall requirements | Ask the supplier to confirmCompatible tolerances, surface state and inspection method |
| Length and ends | Show in the RFQUsable/cut length, end geometry and burr requirements | Ask the supplier to confirmPreparation included and any excluded end region |
| Straightness | Show in the RFQAssessed length and use that makes it important | Ask the supplier to confirmSupport/restraint and inspection state |
| Further processing | Show in the RFQBuyer’s bending, joining, coating or heat treatment | Ask the supplier to confirmMaterial-state assumptions and any trial needed |
| Internal condition | Show in the RFQUse-related cleanliness and protection requirements | Ask the supplier to confirmCleaning scope, evidence and packing protection |
Compare the offered delivery and inspection scope
Yamato describes dimensional, appearance and mechanical-property checks before packing and shipment.[2] For the offered tube, ask which checks apply, how the lot is identified, and what records accompany delivery. An available process list is not a promise that every test is included in your price.
If internal cleanliness matters, describe the actual use and the required evidence. Washing, a visual check and a quantified contamination limit are different requirements. Agree any end protection and packing with the supplier; a cap is not proof that a cleanliness limit has been met. Pressure-bearing or other regulated uses also need their own design and applicable requirements, beyond this dimensional enquiry.
Compare quotes against the same material state, lengths, end work and inspection package. Ask for deviations and proposed alternatives in writing. For a sourcing enquiry, send HAM the drawing, downstream process, quantity, destination and the decisions still open. A supplier trial can resolve a specific forming or fit question without treating an untested alternative as approved.
Questions to send your supplier
Open supplier questions
Use, mating parts and destination: Alloy, governing specification/version and temper: Straight lengths, coil or cut pieces; any seamless requirement: Drawing revision, functional outside/inside diameter and wall requirements: Surface, ovality or wall-variation requirements that matter: Usable length, cut tolerance and excluded end regions: End geometry, burr removal and joining or insert areas: Straightness assessed length, support/restraint and inspection state: Bending, joining, coating or heat treatment after delivery: Cleaning requirement, evidence and packing/end protection: Inspection scope, lot identity and accompanying records: Proposed deviations, trial questions, quantity and delivery timing:
Sources
- Nihon Shinkan — How drawn tubes are made
Read drawing, straightening, cutting, cleaning and heat-treatment sections. Manufacturer process example, not a common process order or capability guarantee.
- Yamato Tube Manufacturing — Manufacturing process
Read starting-tube routes, work hardening/annealing, drawing and final dimensional/appearance/mechanical checks. Drawing does not by itself prove seamless origin.